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[[Image:Floppy_Thinkpad_770.jpg|thumb|200px|right|Floppy cable connector — ThinkPad side (770) — width: 17mm]]
 
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By year 2000, IBM made this their standard exteral floppy connector.  This D-shell connector has 26 pins.  It is found in ThinkPad and Dock line, and SurePOS.
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By year 2000, IBM made this their standard host-side connector for external floppy diskette drive.  This D-shell connector has 26 pins.  It is found in ThinkPad and Dock line, and SurePOS.
  
 
==Models featuring this Technology==
 
==Models featuring this Technology==
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*Blue IBM logo: FRU P/N 05K2643; ASM P/N 05K8805.
 
*Blue IBM logo: FRU P/N 05K2643; ASM P/N 05K8805.
  
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===cable to 21 mm connector===
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*FRU 12J1711
 
*FRU 12J1711
 
*FRU 12J0432
 
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*ThinkPad {{365X}}, {{365XD}}
 
*ThinkPad {{365X}}, {{365XD}}
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*cable to 21 mm connector: P/N 46H8096, FRU P/N 74H0219
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*cable to [[#21_mm_drive|21 mm drive]]: P/N 46H8096, FRU P/N 74H0219
  
 
{{NOTE|IBM used this same connector in ThinkPad 760 [[MIDI/Game Port]].  Be careful not to confuse different peripheral cables.}}
 
{{NOTE|IBM used this same connector in ThinkPad 760 [[MIDI/Game Port]].  Be careful not to confuse different peripheral cables.}}
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*ThinkPad {{701C}}, {{701CS}}
 
*ThinkPad {{701C}}, {{701CS}}
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*cable to 21 mm connector: FRU 04H6916
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*cable to [[#21_mm_drive|21 mm drive]]: FRU 04H6916
  
 
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==Models featuring this Technology==
 
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*ThinkPad {{220}}
 
*ThinkPad {{220}}
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*ThinkPad {{365CD}} {{365ED}} {{365XD}}
 
*ThinkPad {{365CD}} {{365ED}} {{365XD}}

Revision as of 21:06, 10 September 2015

17 mm

Floppy cable connector — ThinkPad side (770) — width: 17mm

By year 2000, IBM made this their standard host-side connector for external floppy diskette drive. This D-shell connector has 26 pins. It is found in ThinkPad and Dock line, and SurePOS.

Models featuring this Technology

beware identical Toshiba

Toshiba used a same connector as IBM (17 mm 26 pin). Like ThinkPad parts, they are abundant in secondhand market. How unfortunate, IBM and Toshiba did not choose identical wiring plan.

jmetal88 wrote on Vintage Computer Forums:
The plug is a perfect fit, but unfortunately, the laptop will not power on with the floppy plugged in. Additionally, the laptop will not power on with the cable plugged in while the floppy drive is not connected to the cable.

Tip by jmetal88 on vintage-computer.com Vintage Computer Forums.

Kasm279 wrote on forum.thinkpads.com:
Despite the cable for a Toshiba and one of the IBM ones having the same connector, they are NOT interchangable. I blew a fuse in a Toshiba that way.

Tip by Kasm279 on forum.thinkpads.com.

drive Options

ThinkPad T Series FDD External Cable Kit

This cable connects Ultrabay 2000 Floppy Drive to host with 17 mm D connector. End of cable with Ultrabay 2000 connector has thumbscrews, for a rigid connection, semi-permanent attachment. IBM Option P/N 27L0524; FRU P/N 27L0525; other P/N (ASM?) 27L0526. Support Document MIGR-4JTSXJ Support Document MIGR-40010

UltraslimBay Floppy enclosure

This enclosure houses UltraslimBay Floppy Drive, connects to host with 17 mm D connector.

  • Black IBM logo: FRU P/N 05K6187; ASM P/N 05K5907.
  • Blue IBM logo: FRU P/N 05K2643; ASM P/N 05K8805.

cable to 21 mm drive

  • FRU 12J1711
  • FRU 12J0432
  • FRU 05K2844 (other P/N 05K2843)
  • FRU 39F2077 (other P/N 85G9169)

20 mm

Floppy cable connector — ThinkPad side (365XD) — width: 20mm

This D shell connector has 26 pins (seems to be the same like 17 mm, but a little bigger).

NOTE!
IBM used this same connector in ThinkPad 760 MIDI/Game Port. Be careful not to confuse different peripheral cables.
ATTENTION!
Also Toshiba produced a cable with same connectors as IBM 74H0219. Toshiba 20mm connector pinout is different: at the very least, pins for power and ground are shorted relative to IBM.

701

Bob Collins wrote on forum.thinkpads.com:
The cable for the flop looks like a mini SCSI (external) connector with 36 gold contacts. The width of the connector is approx 1".

Tip by Bob Collins on forum.thinkpads.com.

NDCaesar wrote on forum.thinkpads.com:
The 701 uses an unusual connector for the external floppy drive. It looks like a wider version of the connector on the 10H4056 floppy drive itself. The trapezoidal part is ~26mm wide and the same height as the one on the drive, with identical clips on either side.

Tip by NDCaesar on forum.thinkpads.com.

21 mm host

Floppy cable connector — drive side — width: 21mm

This D-shaped trapezoidal connector has 26 pins, is a little bit wider than 20 mm D, and about twice as thick.

Models featuring this Technology

cable to 21 mm drive

drive Options

A number of drive Options have a non-removable lead which plugs-in to 21 mm host.

UltraBay Diskette Drive enclosure

21 mm drive

Floppy cable connector — drive side — width: 21mm

IBM, Dell, and Toshiba used 21mm D connector in several external diskette drives.

parallel port

ThinkPad T20 line supports a floppy drive connected to Parallel Port. Other portable PCs featured this functionality (notably Compaq Armada M700, Dell Latitude LS, and Toshiba), but each company chose different wiring, so a non-IBM parallel floppy drive is NOT substitutable. The adapter (FRU P/N: 08K6360; other number (ASM?) 08K6359) provides a 17 mm D receptacle.

references

UNSORTED

Part numbers

  • P/N: 83H6276
  • FRU 73G3422 for 510CS, ref findeis
  • FRU 59G7925 for 500, ref findeis

Models featuring this Technology

"365CD, 365ED systems ship with an external Floppy Disk Drive that has a non-detachable cable. FDD/Cable assembly FRU 75H7572", Document ID: YAST-3FGSHU, kev009.com
  • Ext.-Diskette Drive (Opt. TOGP14M) 48G8263
ThinkPad 730TE 730T 730TE Parts Listing (2524), kev009.com
"Just wanted to advise that some of the newer Thinkpad's External Floppy Drives will function with the 730T. I was using the External floppy from my 765D system, FRU# 66G5069 P/N 66G3696. The floppy drive is also used in the following Thinkpad units, the 360, 355, 370, 701, 755, & 760. This drive unit should be easier and less expensive to obtain than the original unit" 730T/TE Tablet, kev009.com

ThinkPad 310

"The FRU is 05K8827. The cable for the 310ED uses the same size connector on both ends of the cable.", Davemci, forum.thinkpads.com
05K9040, rkawakami same topic as last
"External FDD cable FRU P/N 11J8629" "External FDD Module (with information label) FRU P/N 11J8628", Parts Listing (310, 310D - 2600), kev009.com
  • "FRU P/N 05K8827 - fdd; FRU P/N 11J8629 - cable; For TP 310E/ED,315E/ED only. This floppy drive shipped with the computer and is not available seperately."
  • "FRU P/N 11J8628 - fdd; FRU P/N 11J8629 - cable; For TP 310,315 only. This floppy drive shipped with the computer and is not available seperately."
[http://ps-2.kev009.com/pcpartnerinfo/ctstips/f6fe.htm TP 310E/ED,315E/ED - HDD/CD-Rom/FDD Options, Parts Information Document ID: LWIK-3QAKDA, kev009.com

ThinkPad 760 765

21 mm

  • MPF72E-1 : ASM P/N 05K8973; FRU P/N 05K8990;
  • FD-05P2 : ASM P/N 05K8958; FRU P/N 05K8989;
  • IBM FRU NUMBER : 10H4056 ; PART NUMBER 10H3980 ;
  • IBM FRU # 59G7918
  • FRU # 48G9896
  • Dell part number 25749; FCC ID NO.: DX9-DELL-EXFDD;
  • Toshiba model no. PA2652U; FCC ID : CJ6UK322

Docks and Port Replicators featuring this Technology

NOTE!
These devices only feature pass-through functionality, the actual Floppy Controller logic needs to reside in the ThinkPad for the port to work
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